desi3933
07-08 01:20 PM
Your perspectives go well beyond what an average immigrant thinks about the whole EB system.
I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponsor.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponsor.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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ksrk
05-13 03:56 PM
Please reply this, how to become member of donor group, so that we can come to know what is plan and strategy for future.
Arunmohan, use the "Donate" link at the top of this page. It will take you to a page that helps you make a donation via PayPal.
There is one that shows the progress bar and we should all make every effort to reach the month's goal ahead of time.
Arunmohan, use the "Donate" link at the top of this page. It will take you to a page that helps you make a donation via PayPal.
There is one that shows the progress bar and we should all make every effort to reach the month's goal ahead of time.
SleeplessinSeatle
08-06 05:40 PM
My I-485 was received by NSC, on Jun 25th. Called USCIS today, they said information is not in system. Lawyer is also not repsonding, if checks are cleared. My previously approved I-140 from TSC has a LUD of 08/05/07.
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Cali2006
07-02 08:41 AM
My status:
Jul 2, 2007 7:24 AM
At local FedEx facility
LINCOLN, NE
Jul 2, 2007 7:24 AM
At local FedEx facility
LINCOLN, NE
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mk26
11-17 04:20 PM
Sent the email (Florida)
nousername
01-30 02:29 PM
Thanks sledge for your support.. That's exactly what I meant. One should at least have a job before applying for H1. I am in totally favor of H4 visa holders to be able to work. There are so many highly educated and talented people out there who are stuck at home or school because of H4 work permit law.
I wish good luck to all H4 visa holders and other people who are stuck in this immigration system.
The problem with him and many others including me is people like the OP, and in case you are also one of them, then we all have a problem with people like YOU!!!!!
He never claimed his wife was better than the OP. All he is saying is that his wife HAD a job, which is the minimum requirement to apply for an H-1B. He never said that converting from H4 to H1 is illegal!
Your coment that everyone is trying to improve their life is so simplistic and moronic. No one is denying you or the OP theright to improve one's life. Do so ethically!
How can you simply assume that everyone here came to the US through some bodyshopping company? How did you get your job? Was it through a consulting/bodyshopping company?
And no, he is not dividing the community. You and people like you think that every immigrant is unethical and it is an accepted behavior!
Shame on you!!!
I wish good luck to all H4 visa holders and other people who are stuck in this immigration system.
The problem with him and many others including me is people like the OP, and in case you are also one of them, then we all have a problem with people like YOU!!!!!
He never claimed his wife was better than the OP. All he is saying is that his wife HAD a job, which is the minimum requirement to apply for an H-1B. He never said that converting from H4 to H1 is illegal!
Your coment that everyone is trying to improve their life is so simplistic and moronic. No one is denying you or the OP theright to improve one's life. Do so ethically!
How can you simply assume that everyone here came to the US through some bodyshopping company? How did you get your job? Was it through a consulting/bodyshopping company?
And no, he is not dividing the community. You and people like you think that every immigrant is unethical and it is an accepted behavior!
Shame on you!!!
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GC08
05-06 06:24 PM
I think we should be careful about what we (Employment based immigrats, esp. those who are stuck in backlogs) support. I definitely do not support any reform that does not give us priority or does not eliminate employment based immigration backlogs.
I also think green card lottery, chain immigration, and refugee green cards should be eliminated and those visa numbers should be used for employment based immigrants because all these people can immigrate just like us through employment. We contribute more to the American society and should be given priority. I guess when we become American someday, we would like immigrants who contribute to our community too. Isn't that right? :)
I also think green card lottery, chain immigration, and refugee green cards should be eliminated and those visa numbers should be used for employment based immigrants because all these people can immigrate just like us through employment. We contribute more to the American society and should be given priority. I guess when we become American someday, we would like immigrants who contribute to our community too. Isn't that right? :)
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kosars
08-24 09:24 PM
mailed 2nd, reached 3rd at TSC
checks cashed 23 rd Aug
checks cashed 23 rd Aug
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summerof98
06-07 08:26 AM
The applications recrived at TEXAS on 1st JUN started receiving recepit notices. One of my friends checks got cleared today. :confused: As per my analysys nebraska had a 6 day lag till Jan 1st. Lets see.
reddymjm,
I thought that we have to send our I-485 applications to NSC regardless of which state you are from.
Is that not true? How come your friend sent it to TSC?
Also, what do you mean by "Nebraska had a 6 day lag till Jan 1st"?
Thanks.
reddymjm,
I thought that we have to send our I-485 applications to NSC regardless of which state you are from.
Is that not true? How come your friend sent it to TSC?
Also, what do you mean by "Nebraska had a 6 day lag till Jan 1st"?
Thanks.
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Kodi
07-30 09:54 AM
Just received an email from CRIS, our I-131 was approved. Nothing on EAD.
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reddymjm
02-17 04:12 PM
Whats the total now?
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rustum
08-29 12:01 PM
Hi,
My 140 is filed at NSC. RD is on 05/25/2007. 485 is reached NSC on July 27. Filed from Texas. What are the chances of getting transferred to TSC. Need EAD for wife as soon as possible.
My 140 is filed at NSC. RD is on 05/25/2007. 485 is reached NSC on July 27. Filed from Texas. What are the chances of getting transferred to TSC. Need EAD for wife as soon as possible.
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TIND_CT
08-25 02:23 PM
485+131+765 - Delivered on 5th July - TSC - EB3
No receipt yet..
No receipt yet..
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pandu_hawaldar
09-03 05:34 PM
Got CPO email today 09/03
EAD at TSC
Paper mailed: July 05.
Receipt Date: July 08.
Soft LUD: July 11.
Priority Date: May 06, EB-3 (Ind).
EAD at TSC
Paper mailed: July 05.
Receipt Date: July 08.
Soft LUD: July 11.
Priority Date: May 06, EB-3 (Ind).
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sabbygirl99
03-28 02:38 PM
I have mulled over different options in my head for a long time. Here are some things I came up with:
- switch to a part time H1 (and do something else in your free time that you might find a little more fulfilling, i.e enrolling in PT grad program, starting a business (which you CAN do on an H1!!!), travel!!). I know there is the money factor but most of us are IT people and hopefully taking a cut will be worth the improved life.
- begin your Canadian PR process. This takes a lot less time and honestly, I think Canadians are more cultured anyway. Leave these people to their Paris and Nicoles :)
OK - I guess I didn;t come up with as many options as I had thought.... :)
- switch to a part time H1 (and do something else in your free time that you might find a little more fulfilling, i.e enrolling in PT grad program, starting a business (which you CAN do on an H1!!!), travel!!). I know there is the money factor but most of us are IT people and hopefully taking a cut will be worth the improved life.
- begin your Canadian PR process. This takes a lot less time and honestly, I think Canadians are more cultured anyway. Leave these people to their Paris and Nicoles :)
OK - I guess I didn;t come up with as many options as I had thought.... :)
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crystal
07-10 10:34 AM
I am not able to see can you paste the content ?
Article on Pioneer Press in Minneapolis, MN
http://www.twincities.com/ci_6336222?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com&nclick_check=1
I am able to see here
http://www.twincities.com/business/ci_6336222
Article on Pioneer Press in Minneapolis, MN
http://www.twincities.com/ci_6336222?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com&nclick_check=1
I am able to see here
http://www.twincities.com/business/ci_6336222
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senthil1
07-28 01:20 PM
Problem is not with compaign to get more spill over visa for EB3. Can you impress USCIS/DOS to get this done. What support EB3 has outside(like companies,lawyers) for this compaign. EB2 supposed to have more skills than EB3 according to DOS/USCIS. So if you argue that EB3 and EB2 are same then they will not accept it. If you impress somehow they will just investigate the entire EB process and try to find the truth. That time many other issues may come up.
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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ushkand
09-04 03:07 PM
Just got my checks cashed for I-485. I did not apply for EAD or AP with my 485.
Btw.. I did not have my medical exam and used the wrong G-325 form but still got receipted. I hope the second application I sent in does not cause any issues. :(
Btw.. I did not have my medical exam and used the wrong G-325 form but still got receipted. I hope the second application I sent in does not cause any issues. :(
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chanduv23
06-28 10:26 PM
A note to my fellow IV members - I am not after the $42/Hr job. Good luck in finding a US citizen to do this job. I was wrong about EEO, it is actually IRCA which prohibits discrimination in recruitment and hiring.
Best Practices for hiring workers from Department of Justice (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/best_practices.htm)
But the point remains - visa status based discrimination is illegal not matter which law is being violated, and must be highlighted. We have to correct the misinformation spread by anti-immigrant groups that most jobs are "reserved for H1Bs", while the reality is different. Most jobs are "reserved" for American workers (although such reservation is illegal under IRCA). We have to provide the proof that the myth of "thousands of jobs reserved for foreign workers" in nothing but a myth. My posting is a small step in that direction.
Here is another one in the continuing series of exposing the highly prevalent illegal hiring practice. I request everyone to start posting similar job-ads you get from recruiters. Once we get a hundred or more ads here, we can start E-mailing the links to the media.
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fromPatricia (Vyshnavi Infotech) <patricia@vysinc.com>
to"Patricia (Vyshnavi Infotech)" <patricia@vysinc.com>
dateMon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM
subjectJobs for Web logic consultants
HI,
This is Patricia Evan. I have the below position for one of my clients. If you are interested in this position please send me your updated resume.
Web logic Java Consultant
Duration is 6 months.
Location is Connecticut
Must be US Citizen
Looking for a Weblogic Java Consultant with strong pharmaceutical experience
this person will be building webpage�s and build controls to access database Page flow development for a portal that supports my clients clinical trial tracking process. This internal/external portal
allows documents to be accessed and uploaded, etc.
The successful candidates should have the skills mentioned below and also know how to debug problems, how to configure into weblog console, and query a database to join tables. Client will teach the business processes.
Must Haves:
Deep development skills
Weblogic Admin tool 10.2
Apache Beehive Page Flow
Database controls
Java/JSP
Strong SQL
Oracle 10G (preferred)
AJAX
Java Script
Candidate must have all of above�.strong Apache Beehive Page Flow is key to position.
Regards,
Patricia Evan
IT Recruiter
Vyshnavi Infotech INC
Herndon, VA 20170
PH : 703-793-1868 Ext 211
Fax: 703-547-0135
Email:patricia@vysinc.com
vivek - I have come across this company. It is a desi consulting company. The "Reqruiter" name seems to be a "nickname". Looks like they are doing these things so that they do not fall under the radar and hence such blatent statements "Only US Citizen".
If we all remember there was another post on dice which said "No Indians" and was discussed a lot on IV and finally the reqruiter got fired.
Looks like desi companies are trying to seek a new identity so that they do not fall under the radar
Best Practices for hiring workers from Department of Justice (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/best_practices.htm)
But the point remains - visa status based discrimination is illegal not matter which law is being violated, and must be highlighted. We have to correct the misinformation spread by anti-immigrant groups that most jobs are "reserved for H1Bs", while the reality is different. Most jobs are "reserved" for American workers (although such reservation is illegal under IRCA). We have to provide the proof that the myth of "thousands of jobs reserved for foreign workers" in nothing but a myth. My posting is a small step in that direction.
Here is another one in the continuing series of exposing the highly prevalent illegal hiring practice. I request everyone to start posting similar job-ads you get from recruiters. Once we get a hundred or more ads here, we can start E-mailing the links to the media.
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fromPatricia (Vyshnavi Infotech) <patricia@vysinc.com>
to"Patricia (Vyshnavi Infotech)" <patricia@vysinc.com>
dateMon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM
subjectJobs for Web logic consultants
HI,
This is Patricia Evan. I have the below position for one of my clients. If you are interested in this position please send me your updated resume.
Web logic Java Consultant
Duration is 6 months.
Location is Connecticut
Must be US Citizen
Looking for a Weblogic Java Consultant with strong pharmaceutical experience
this person will be building webpage�s and build controls to access database Page flow development for a portal that supports my clients clinical trial tracking process. This internal/external portal
allows documents to be accessed and uploaded, etc.
The successful candidates should have the skills mentioned below and also know how to debug problems, how to configure into weblog console, and query a database to join tables. Client will teach the business processes.
Must Haves:
Deep development skills
Weblogic Admin tool 10.2
Apache Beehive Page Flow
Database controls
Java/JSP
Strong SQL
Oracle 10G (preferred)
AJAX
Java Script
Candidate must have all of above�.strong Apache Beehive Page Flow is key to position.
Regards,
Patricia Evan
IT Recruiter
Vyshnavi Infotech INC
Herndon, VA 20170
PH : 703-793-1868 Ext 211
Fax: 703-547-0135
Email:patricia@vysinc.com
vivek - I have come across this company. It is a desi consulting company. The "Reqruiter" name seems to be a "nickname". Looks like they are doing these things so that they do not fall under the radar and hence such blatent statements "Only US Citizen".
If we all remember there was another post on dice which said "No Indians" and was discussed a lot on IV and finally the reqruiter got fired.
Looks like desi companies are trying to seek a new identity so that they do not fall under the radar
anandrajesh
07-10 09:57 AM
Article on Pioneer Press in Minneapolis, MN
http://www.twincities.com/ci_6336222?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com&nclick_check=1
http://www.twincities.com/ci_6336222?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com&nclick_check=1
jkays94
06-26 02:09 PM
Dear mpkmaster, it is easy to ignore facts and throw stones like "your are rasist". And it is not easy to face the reality. Since you are so smart, I would like to ask you some questions:
>>1. Why there are long immigration lines in the US, Europe, Australia, Canada, Singapore etc, and almost none for Mexico, Latin America, Middle East etc. Maybe because these countries a full of "racists" ?[/QUOTE]
To the best of my recollection, thousands of persons from Mexico are very much in line and suffer from retrogression just like everyone else. Please refer to any visa bulletin for details.
>>1. Why there are long immigration lines in the US, Europe, Australia, Canada, Singapore etc, and almost none for Mexico, Latin America, Middle East etc. Maybe because these countries a full of "racists" ?[/QUOTE]
To the best of my recollection, thousands of persons from Mexico are very much in line and suffer from retrogression just like everyone else. Please refer to any visa bulletin for details.
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